[-empyre-] ? =÷= ?

[jon.satrom <jon@selectall.org>]

On May 20, 2004, at 4:37 PM, jon.satrom wrote:


Alan Sondheim wrote:
> What are 'gnu media' - beyond the pun, the phrase has specific 
> meanings in
> terms of copyleft, Stahlman, etc. etc.

what i enjoy about the [mashup/mixtape] word "gnu media" is the 
overlapping of open src ideas. copy left ++ the "copy it right" 
mentality of the early tool builders.

Alan Sondheim wrote:
> Stahlman has written eloquently on the development and use of the term.
> Other than that, I'm not sure how you're using it.

are you referring to the use of the term "gnu media" or just "gnu" ?
if gnu media () i invite you to post the txt+link w/in liken
i am interested in stahlman's writings ++ it will create a path to this 
discussion.

i am using the term to bring light to the practice of sharing 
[knowledge/plans/methods] in the early dayz ++ raise the question(?) 
does current practice share the enthusiasm for an open discourse of 
"how to" and "why" /or/ is current practice limited by tool sets and 
conventions that are no longer [questioned/challenged/historicized]?

gnu system = image processor / copy it right / signal into inputs mixed 
to outputs
new system = meta media tool* / copyright / presets into codecs bounced 
to disks

*meta media tool = final cut pro/flash/reason

Alan Sondheim wrote:
> Could you define what you mean by 'knew' or 'gnu' or for that matter 
> 'new'
> media?

jonCates wrote:
> we utilize the term knew media to reference the
> categorical state of knewness + complicate an unfettered attachment to 
> a false
> sense of newness.

i threw gnu media in to the [lyrical/emmpyrical] [re/mixtape] to 
generate a path to the openness of of the early community.

in context i used "new media" to elude to current media art practice, i 
recall digging through the empyre crate while looking for a REWind 
subject: that during the month of july04 the empyre community discussed 
and defined 'new' media. i may be .bak with a re[post/sponce]

Alan Sondheim wrote:
> It seems to me, like pomo, 'new media' can be taken to refer either to 
> the
> development of, literally, new media, or reference a particular 
> historical
> turn of potential/cultural evolution -
jonCates wrote:
> personally, i would agree w/you about these uses + would add in this 
> context that when i wrote "Subject: [-empyre-] REW: knew media" i 
> intended to articulate a return to the threads of previous discussions 
> as part of the process of criticalartware pressing REWind on empyre.


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jon satrom
criticalartware coredeveloper
http:/www.criticalartware.net
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